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Old 02-12-2008, 06:59 PM   #96 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The Lying Dutchman View Post
oh come on! your promoting your own lifestyle as being examplary. isnt it a big part of a free society that everyone can decide for himself how to live their lives? what do you know about the benefits something simple as a bit of marihuana can bring to someone, just like he's not supposed to correct your lifestyle?
Because I know firsthand what marijuana does to people, and I know firsthand what effects it has on those around them. It may be irrelevant to those here, but I remember when my brother used marijuana for a long period of time and it practically tore my family apart. I've talked to people who quit who have said it wasn't worth it, I've talked to marijuana users now who do nothing all day but sit and waste theirs and everyone else's time with the drug. This society is not built upon principles of lazy self indulgence. It's built upon hard work and being rewarded for that hard work. I get my high from finding something that needs to be done--say outside (shoveling snow, hiking, camping, planting trees, etc...), isolating a task and goal in nature that I want to achieve and working at it. That's how progress is made.

There's nothing unnatural about any of that--my brain isn't getting screwed up, and better yet, no one around me suffers either. I suffered plenty when my brother was on pot, I know plenty of families that suffer equally when their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, daughters, sons, etc. use marijuana. with milder side effects like impaired cognitive abilities, complete exhaustion, and apathy, and moderate ranging side effects like psychosis, hallucinations, etc. how the hell could you logically claim that marijuana doesn't negatively affect people around the user? You can't. Not logically.

Ironically we as a society and nation are supposed to be working together towards collective progress. How can we possibly be working towards progress advocating a drug that is counter-productive by it's very nature? We can't.

The "liberal" ideology claims to be all about "progress," yet apparently the liberal-minded ideology also advocates things that inspire mental fatigue and apathy--obviously counter-productive side-effects induced by a drug that unnaturally screws with brain chemicals. That makes no sense.


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ease down. live and let live.
I am doing that. I'm not negatively impacting anyone else's life around mine, and if I do, I expect to pay the consequences for it... I guess recreational marijuana users feel they should be exempt from that... I guess recreational marijuana users feel that they deserve more comfort than others (according to their own individualistic sense of the word) at the expense of the comfort, security, stability, and sometimes safety of those around them... I'd say that's negating you're little "live and let live" theory. You see, I respect the libertarian philosophy, but drugs do not logically fit within that philosophy, it's a fallacy to promote drugs with the "live and let live" philosophy. Most drug legalization advocates who want it for recreational purposes (the majority of them) live by a "give me more so that I can continue to take more" philosophy without any care of who is affected or who gets hurt around them. Is that fair? Is that right when recreational marijuana is nothing but a simple individualistic pleasure? No. It's not right at all.
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