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Originally Posted by VoiceofReason
Really? Are you trying to say that without US involvement Hitler and Japan could have been defeated? First without US involvement in Africa Hitler would have controled the Med and we would not have been able to attack from the west. Without our being able to open a western front the Russians would have been defeated. Without our defeating Japan, the Russian eastern border was threatened along with the Japanese holding China and taking over SE asia, Australian, NZ , Malasia and on and on. Without the materials and equipment supplied to Russia by the US Russia would have fallen quickly as would have the UK.
And of course we managed to put together the atomic bomb which save millions of lives in the end and put a final stop to it all.
Success? HUGE success. Joint effort, by far. Too bad the jealousy and ego of the rest of the world prevents them from helping in the current situation and the US has to go it virtually alone.
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Speculation on "what ifs" is always subjective but there are some facts to support the belief that the USSR was the predominate force in ending the war against Germany. Most historical scholars cite the battle of Stalingrad as the turing point in Europe. Germany was not defeated at that point but they were no longer aggressors and were in retreat on the Eastern Front. That was in Feburary 1943 well over a year before the Normandy invasion. The primary reason for the Normandy invasion was to draw of German forces opposing the USSR on the Eastern Front. Throughout the European theater the USSR faced the bulk of the Germany and not the US/British forces in the Western campaign. The US/British efforts certainly supplemented and were significant to Russian offensive but even without it Russian forces were advancing in the East on Germany.
The war against Japan is another matter and certainly the US lead that effort but even there the USSR was advancing against the Japanese in Manchuria. The dropping of the atom bomb had as much to do with stopping the Russian military advance in Asia as it did about ending the war. Even then Truman and Churchill had realized that they might be sleeping with the enemy (Stalin).